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Annotated FOTR Scene Discussion

1. Prologue

The Prologue
The Prologue Part 2 - Depicting Sauron
The Prologue Part 3 - The Last Alliance
The Prologue Part 4 - Wanted Round Shiny Object to Star in Major Motion Picture
The Prologue Part 5 - Saturday Night Quiz for Anyone Not Reading Harry Potter Tonight
The Prologue Part 6 - Final Questions-Open Discussion

2. Concerning Hobbits

Concerning Hobbits - Built, or Grown
Concerning Hobbits - Gone and Back Again
Concerning Hobbits - Hobbits What are They
Concerning Hobbits - Legolas, Get the Map!
Concerning Hobbits - Mathom House

3. The Shire

The Shire Part 1 - Down the Hobbit Hole
The Shire Part 2 - Gandalf Mk. III
The Shire Part 3 - Ominous Ambiguity
The Shire Part 4 - Three more things
The Shire Part 5 - On Olórin's Secret Service
The Shire Part 6 - Open Discussion

4. Very Old Friends

Very Old Friends - Bilbo Baggins
Very Old Friends - Bag End
Very Old Friends - The smoking scene
Very Old Friends - Scale

5. A Long Expected Party

A Long Expected Party...
A Long Expected Party 2....

6. Farewell Dear Bilbo

Farewell Dear Bilbo, Part 1 - Odds and Ends
Farewell Dear Bilbo, Part 2 - Bag End, Set and Scale
Farewell Dear Bilbo, Part 3 - Bilbo and his Ring
Farewell Dear Bilbo, Part 4 - Getting Swept off Your Feet
Farewell Dear Bilbo, Part 5 - The Road Goes Ever On

7. Keep it Secret, Keep it Safe

Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe - Opening Thoughts
Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe - Cast Contemplations
Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe - Production-Post Production Ponderings
Keep It Secret, Keep It Safe - Design, Directors and Writers and Final Thoughts

8. The Account of Isildur

The Account of Isildur - Opening Remarks
The Account of Isildur - Cast Commentary

9. At the Green Dragon

At the Green Dragon -To the Bottle We Go!
At the Green Dragon - Sam & Rosie, and ROTK

10. The Shadow of the Past

The Shadow of the Past
The Shadow of the Past (continued)
The Shadow of the Past

11. The Passing of the Elves

The Passing of the Elves Prologue
The Passing of the Elves Part 1

12. Saruman the White

Saruman the White 1
Directors' and Writers' Commentary
Design Commentary
Production and Post-Production Commentary
Cast Commentary and Fin

13. Shortcut to Mushrooms

A Shortcut to Mushrooms Intro
A Shortcut to Mushrooms Part 2
Design Team Commentary

14. Buckleberry Ferry

Buckleberry Ferry
Buckleberry Ferry - The Basics
Buckleberry Ferry - The Director and Writers
Buckleberry Ferry - The Design Team
Buckleberry Ferry - Production and Cast Commentaries + Conclusion

15. At the Prancing Pony

At the Prancing Pony - Introduction
At the Prancing Pony - Bree
At the Prancing Pony - Introduction to Strider
At the Prancing Pony - The Ring Incident
At the Prancing Pony - The Wraith World
At the Prancing Pony - Of Rangers and Their Swords

16. The Nazgúl

The Nazgūl - Wraiths on Skates!!
The Nazgūl - Sleepless in Bree
The Nazgūl - The Blonde Leading the Blonde
The Nazgul - Apples From Dunland!
The Nazgūl - The Closing of the Gap

17. The Midgewater Marshes

The Midgewater Marshes - There's a nasty bog nearby!
The Midgewater Marshes - Yuckie Muckie!
The Midgewater Marshes - Evening comes
Frodo and Strider
The Midgewater Marshes - Leaving the bugs behind!

18. The Spoiling of Isengard

Spoiling of Isengard - Great Ball(s) o' Fire
Spoiling of Isengard - By the pricking of my thumbs
Spoiling of Isengard - Brown is the new green
Spoiling of Isengard - The magician's computer
Spoiling of Isengard - Amateur dramatics

19. A Knife in the Dark

A Knife in the Dark - Introduction
A Knife in the Dark - These are for You!
A Knife in the Dark - Ash in my Tomatoes!
A Knife in the Dark - Wraith's World... Party Time...Excellent...Not!

20. The Caverns of Isengard

The Caverns of Isenguard - On top of old Smokey !
The Caverns of Isenguard - Bubbles of Evil
The Caverns of Isenguard - General Saruman
The Caverns of Isenguard - Birth of a Nation

21. The Flight to the Ford

The Flight to the Ford - Introduction
The Flight to the Ford 1 - Look Frodo, it's Mr. Bilbo's trolls!
The Flight to the Ford 2 - Frodo...Im Arwen...
The Flight to the Ford 3 - Where are you taking him
The Flight to the Ford 4 - The Chase
The Flight to the Ford 5 - If you want him, come and claim him!

22. Rivendell

Rivendell 1 - The scene we didn't see
Rivendell 2 - Bliss on a scale of 1 - 10
Rivendell 3 - Where facts try to get in the way of feelings
Rivendell 4 - Over the edge
Rivendell 5 - No frequent flyer miles on Gwaihirlines

23. Many Meetings

Many Meetings pt.1 - He's awake!
Many Meetings pt.2 - Time to get up!
Many Meetings pt.3 - A moment of Tolkien-zen
Many Meetings pt.4 - O Sam
Many Meetings pt.5 - Welcome to Rivendell

24. The Fate of the Ring

The Fate of the Ring -- Er, what are you trying to say
The Fate of the Ring - Odd Man Out
The Fate of the Ring - High elf, Gray elf, Wood elf, Light elf.
The Fate of the Ring - One Dark Lord, One Dwarf
The Fate of the Ring - Men are weak and their mothers dress them funny.
The Fate of the Ring - Open Discussion

25. The Sword that was broken

The Sword that was Broken - part 1
The Sword that was Broken - part 2

26. The Evenstar

The Evenstar 1
The Evenstar 2
The Evenstar 3
The Evenstar 4
The Evenstar 5

27. The Council of Elrond

The Council of Elrond--A Difficult Adaptation
The Council of Elrond 2
The Council of Elrond 3

28. Gilraen's Memorial

Gilraen's Memorial
Gilraen's Memorial 2

29. Bilbo's Gifts

Bilbo's Gifts
Bilbo's Gifts

30. The Departure of the Fellowship

Scene 30
Scene 30, Part II

31. The Ring goes South

The Ring Goes South
The Ring Goes South 2

32. The Pass of Caradhras

The Pass of Caradhras
The Pass of Caradhras P2
The Pass of Caradhras Final Thoughts

33. Moria

Moria - The Bridge Over The River Sirannon
Moria - Lost Moon
Moria - Could it really be that simple
Moria - Eight Arms (and more) To Hold You
Moria - Open Discussion

34. A Journey in the Dark

A Journey in the Dark - The Journey begins
A Journey in the Dark - A Walk through the Caverns of Katroo
A Journey in the Dark - Behold the ancient silver paint of the dwarves!?
A Journey in the Dark - City of the Dead, Crossroads of the Bored
Frodo and Gandalf and Gollum A Study in eye contact
A Journey in the Dark - An eyeopener and no mistake!?
A Journey in the Dark - Conclusion - What do you mean, Balin is dead?

35. Balin's Tomb

Balin's Tomb - Opening Comments
Balin's Tomb - Director and Writers Commentary
Balin's Tomb - Design Team Commentary Part I
Balin's Tomb - Design Team Commentary Part II
Balin's Tomb - Production Commentary
Balin's Tomb - Cast Commentary
Balin's Tomb - Closing Comments

36. The Bridge of Khazad-dûm

The Bridge of Khazad-Dūm - Introduction
The Bridge of Khazad-Dūm - Through the Great Hall
The Bridge of Khazad-Dūm - The Balrog Approaches
The Bridge of Khazad-Dūm - The crumbling stair
The Bridge of Khazad-Dūm - The Balrog
The Bridge of Khazad-Dūm - Fly, you fools!
The Bridge of Khazad-Dūm - Open Discussion

37. Lothlórien

Lothlorien 1
Lothlorien 2
Lothlorien 3 - Do you know what this Dwarf says
Lothlorien 4

38. Caras Galadhon

Caras Galadhon - A Green Cloud
Caras Galadhon - This isn't ART - it's endurance!
Caras Galadhon - Elves in Slow Motion
Caras Galadhon - Slumber Party in Lothlorien
Caras Galadhon - The Dangling Conversation
Caras Galadhon - Open Discussion

39. The Mirror of Galadriel

The Mirror of Galadriel 1 - Book to Film
The Mirror of Galadriel 2 - Film Technique
The Mirror of Galadriel 3 - Director's and Writers' Commentary
The Mirror of Galadriel 4 - Other Commentaries and Open Discussion

40. The Fighting Uruk-hai

The Fighting Uruk-Hai
The Fighting Uruk-Hai 2
The Fighting Uruk-hai 3
The Fighting Uruk-Hai Final post

41. Farewell to Lórien

Farewell to Lórien 1 - swan boats, lembas and (not so) helpful elves
Farewell to Lórien 2 - Ultimate Elf, Boromir the Rejected and editorial ethics
Farewell to Lórien 3 - potential-grandmothers-in-law-to-be, and the Virgin Mary
Farewell to Lórien 4 - laughter, beauty and racial tolerance
Farewell to Lórien 5 - Open Discussion

42. The Great River

The Great River 1 - The Chase
The Great River 2 - Frodo and Sam
The Great River 3 - Aragorn and Boromir
The Great River 4 - The Visuals
The Great River 5 - The Score

43. Parth Galen

Parth Galen
arth Galen Part 1 - Legolas-Gimli
Parth Galen Part 2 - Boromir
Parth Galen Part 3 - Frodo
Parth Galen Part 4 - Aragorn
Parth Galen - Open Discussion

44. The Breaking of the Fellowship

The Breaking of the Fellowship
The Breaking of the Fellowship - 11 Fight Facts and Vote for Your Favorite!
The Breaking of the Fellowship - He's Leaving
The Breaking of the Fellowship - Boromir's Last Stand
The Breaking of the Fellowship - Sam, Final Thoughts and a Reminder

45. The Departure of Boromir

The Departure of Boromir 1
The Departure of Boromir 2
The Departure of Boromir (and other scenes)
The Departure of Boromir, Movie vs. Book

46. The Road goes ever on an on ...

The Road goes ever on and on.......
part 2....'.far from the door where we began'

Annotated TTT Scene Discussion

1. Foundations of Stone

Foundations of Stone - Introductions and Opening
Foundations of Stone - The Misty Mountain
Foundations of Stone - Fellowship Revisited
Foundations of Stone - The Descent
Foundations of Stone - Open Discussion

2. Elven Rope

Elven Rope 1 - The Titles
Elven Rope 2 - Rocks, ropes and salt
Elven Rope 3 - Themes
Elven Rope 4 - Characters
Elven Rope 5 - Open Discussion

3. The Taming of Smeagol

The Taming of Smeagol - Biting off more lembas than I can chew
The Taming of Smeagol - Has anybody here seen my ol' friend Sam
The Taming of Smeagol - Forming the Uneasy Alliance

4. The Uruk-hai

The Uruk-hai - The short and the long of it.
The Uruk-hai - Evil creatures
The Uruk-hai - Brave little hobbits.
The Uruk-hai - Masters of disguise
The Uruk-hai - Book quiz!

5. The Three Hunters

The Three Hunters
The Three Hunters - PJ, Fran and Philippa

6. The Burning of the Westfold

The Burning of the Westfold - first impressions
The Burning of the Westfold - power and subversion
The Burning of the Westfold - Saruman vs. nature
The Burning of the Westfold - It will begin in Rohan

7. The Massacre at the Ford of Isen

Massacre at the Fords of Isen Part One - Let me lie here to keep the ford until Eomer comes
Massacre at the Fords of Isen Part Two - It's not the orc that kills you, it's all the bouncing around

8. The Banishment of Éomer

The Banishment of Éomer, Part One - My favorite scene
The Banishment of Éomer, Part Two - A fungus among us
The Banishment of Éomer, Part Three - A battle of wits (Éomer loses.)
Massacre at the Fords of Isen & The Banishment of Éomer - Open Discusson

9. On the Trail of the Uruk-hai

On the Trail of the Uruk-hai - They run and they run and they run.

10. Night Camp at Fangorn

Night Camp at Fangorn, Part One - Spooky story or obvious plot point
Night Camp at Fangorn, Part Two - Hobbits à la carte
Night Camp at Fangorn, Part Three - Pippin dies!!!
On the Trail of the Uruk-hai & Night Camp at Fangorn - Open Discussion

11. The Riders of Rohan

Riders of Rohan - What news from the Mark
Riders of Rohan - Introductions
Riders of Rohan - Design
Riders of Rohan - Do not trust to hope

15. The White Rider

The White Rider 1 - Orc-blood!
The White Rider 2 - The White Wizard
The White Rider 3 - Shadowfax
The White Rider 4 - The Heir of Numenor
The White Rider 5 - He's not alone.

20. The King of the Golden Hall

The King of the Golden Hall, Part 1 - Like a Fish Needs a Bicycle
The King of the Golden Hall, Part 2 - The biggest graveyard west of the Misties
The King of the Golden Hall, Part 3 - The Whacking of the King
The King of the Golden Hall, Part 4 - Look out!! He's got a sword!!!
The King of the Golden Hall, Part 5 - Run, Grima, Run!
The King of the Golden Hall, Part 6 - Open Discussion

21. The Funeral of Theodred

The Funeral of Theodred - A song shall sing...

22. Simbelmyne on the Burial Mounds

Simbelmyne on the Burial Mounds

23. The King's Decision

The King's Decision - Part I
The King's Decision - Part II
The King's Decision - Part III

24. Brego

Brego

25. The Ring of Barahir

The Ring of Barahir

26. A Daughter of Kings

A Daughter of Kings and the Role of Women

31. Dwarven Women

Dwarven Women
Old enough to be my What